Guido Fawkes vs Stephen Tall

Checking my memory was right about something this morning, I came across this exchange in the Lib Dem Voice comments thread which made me chuckle.

It was in response to my post pointing out that allegations pushed repeatedly by Guido and Harry Cole (Tory Bear as was) had not been upheld when looked into by the Parliamentary Commissioner:

• Guido Fawkes
  Posted 31st March 2010 at 12:23 pm

  Not proven is not the same as innocent.

• Stephen Tall
  Posted 31st March 2010 at 12:42 pm

  @ Guido Fawkes – So the individual is guilty until proven innocent by the state, eh? The cry of libertarians through the ages, I’m sure.